Universal Access To All Knowledge
Home Donate | Store | Blog | FAQ | Jobs | Volunteer Positions | Contact | Bios | Forums | Projects | Terms, Privacy, & Copyright
Search: Advanced Search
Anonymous User (login or join us)
Upload

Reply to this post | See parent post | Go Back
View Post [edit]

Poster: ringolevio Date: Nov 21, 2010 8:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: furthur

thanks. I wondered if Deb was in agreement! So she doesn't want to go today, too? Hopefully she will tell us about Worcester, was it equally disappointing or better?
I just greatly admire and respect Bob and feel bad if he's having issues, whatever they are. Nothing to be ashamed of after, what, 40 years of beautiful music? What more can we ask? It is normal not to be at the top of one's game after 40 years. I don't know how I get out the door some mornings, and I don't have thousands of people expecting me to go on being a living legend.

I was just chatting with a friend whom I've known for about 25 years, and she moved recently, and I confessed that I am unable to memorize her new phone number. If it weren't in my cell phone, I simply wouldn't be able to call her, 'cus I can't memorize new phone numbers. I am senile. Bob has a few years on me and is doin' pretty good all things considered ...

(haven't checked out your links yet but will later on)

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: Dancin'Deb Date: Nov 21, 2010 10:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: furthur

I'm hoping that I can put into words what happened for me last night. First, let me start by saying that I had an amazing time in Worcester and I thought they sounded great. The DCU Center was so relaxed...it was kind of like security decided to just let us have fun. It was great and I would go again in a heartbeat to see Furthur there!
Unfortunately, MSG was not anywhere near relaxed. I had forgotten how much I dislike it there...I can't stand the hallways and it brings out my claustrophobia. The security was ridiculous and wouldn't let us dance really anywhere inside the arena (you could dance in the bigger entrances, I believe).
What I've realized, after a lot of reflection as to why I wanted to leave last night, is that going to dance to the music and going to just listen to the music are 2 very different things. I have a hard time picking out instruments, so I tend to listen to music as a whole . I can't speak of their technical problems but as a whole, I didn't think they sounded great. I couldn't dance last night as there was no place for me to do so without leaving S and I didn't want to do that so I actually paid attention more to the music. I didn't hate it, it just didn't sound cohesive. Maybe something happens to the music when I spin...I don't know, but it sounded great to me Friday night in Worcester. And, I agree Ring, after 40 years I think they we should cut Bobby some slack...though I am concerned for him.
So these were the things that led to us leaving...during Dark Star...who leaves during Dark Star?? but it was the right decision for us. I will absolutely go see them again (and again...I need more shows:) but I don't think I will ever go to MSG again!

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Nov 22, 2010 2:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: furthur

I still put Bob Carpenter Center at the U of Delaware the worst place they've played yet by a long shot. Their security is jackbooted Gestapo campus police and staties everywhere.

We had no problem up in the 300's on the first night of MSG with any security. Come to think of it I never saw them the whole night.

The second night I was on the floor and no one really bothered us then either.



Attachment: Photo-0060.jpg

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Nov 22, 2010 7:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: furthur

Where I was (sec 219) folks were dancing up a storm and no security in site, was also dancing in the aisle dead center behind stage (sec 215) and were not bothered at all. I grew up in LI and saw many shows at MSG & Nassau so am probably used to it. My overall experience at MSG is some security guys take their job very seriously and some don't it all depends on the section, so I usually move around till I find a good section.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: ringolevio Date: Nov 21, 2010 11:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: furthur

This is really helpful Deb, 'cus it confirms for me that we would not have had a good time, that MSG is just not the way to do it. My husband is in NYC frequently on business and basically hates it (he's not a city boy at all). He is also claustrophobic and would have probably freaked out - maybe we need to stick to the very open and relaxed venues, hopefully the Mann next summer, or I haven't been to Mohegan Sun, have you seen them there? also he asked me if they were loud and I said no, they didn't seem loud to me at all at the Mann last summer so it is interesting to hear from Sean that they are loud indoors.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: shakeitupnow Date: Nov 21, 2010 11:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: furthur

You would like Mohegan Sun - it's wide open and the staff are reasonably relaxed.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: Dancin'Deb Date: Nov 21, 2010 12:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: furthur

I had a completely different experience at Mohegan Sun than ShakeItUp...I found the staff to be similar to MSG...but it was wide open...they just wouldn't let us dance anywhere...they kept saying (at Mohegan Sun) "You paid for the space in front of your seat..that is where you get to dance"...obviously, they had never been to a Grateful Dead show before, hmmmppffh!

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: shakeitupnow Date: Nov 21, 2010 12:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: furthur

I will defer to you -- I only went once and had great seats, so I never really wandered off.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: Dancin'Deb Date: Nov 21, 2010 12:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: furthur

Once we made our way to the back of the floor and could dance, it was great fun. I guess I'm just getting finicky in my 40's...all I want to do is dance and if I can't do that then it's no fun! I wonder how the Nokia would be?

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: Diamondhead Date: Nov 21, 2010 4:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: furthur

I'm glad you and your hub are still on the quest and I can live vicariously. At my age, dancing has been reduced to a periodic wiggle. Listening has taken on a whole new meaning. That is, when I can get my hearing aid adjusted right. :)


Terms of Use (10 Mar 2001)